What is the most significant event happening in these chapters? What do we learn about Victor and the way he handles misfortunes? Should he confess what he has done or continue to keep it in secret so that he is not deemed mentally ill? Explain
The most significant event in these chapters is Victor's reencounter with the Monster. The time after Justine's execution, Victor was slowly dying because of his guilt. He had an urge to confess but did not because he feared the outcome, and he even felt hopeless to the point he wanted to end his life. Thus, Victor's encounter with the monster is the most important event in these chapters because it is a pivotal moment in Victor's life. It is what will determine whether or not he lives a happy life or a fearful life. This can be assumed since the monster says, "make me happy, and I shall be virtuous," (Shelley 114). The monster's words are a threat to Victor. He will only be good if Victor complies with his demands. Aside from that, Shelley also manages to include nature in the way Victor handles his misfortunes. From the beginning of the story until now, it is quite clear that whenever Victor finds himself not knowing what to do he runs away to find himself with nature. At Victor's vacation home, he wants to rest with nature, yet still feels despair. On their trip to Chamonix, Victor feels hopeless, so he tries to escape through nature but finds himself aggravated once he sees the monster. I feel like Victor should confess what he has done and own up to be called mentally ill. He cannot expect to be viewed differently when his sole purpose of creating the monster was to be seen as a god by his creations. Aside from that he must confess or at least abide by the rules of the monster to protect his family. If he confesses, the people could be prepared to destroy him, and if he abides by the monster's wishes, he won't have to worry for his family's safety.
I agree with the fact that he should confess about the monster. As the monster has leverage over him making him vulnerable and paranoid which is not healthy. He should confess in order to receive the proper care for his mental health and for the monster as well. Victor is going through serious mental illness wether he wants to admit it or not which could include paranoia, depression, and anxiety which are serious illnesses that should be treated. He should also confess for the safety of his family for them to be prepared and to have course of action in case that the monster arrives and tries to harm them.
I don't think Victor should confess because if they do choose to send Victor to a rehabilitation center and go look for his creation, they will not know what to expect and many others could end up just like William. Of course, the "monster" would only do that because he's afraid but without Victor, those people, including his love ones, will sign their fate.
One of the most significant moments in these chapters is victors brother being murdered, making him feel even more guilty about the creation of the monster. The murder of his brother makes him feel guilty and remorseful about his creation since his secret is creating a gap between the people around him. His paranoia made him think that the monster killed his brother and not Justine. All of his emotions could be seen through the reflection of nature around him. It all depends on how the environment around him is as it is gloomy and dark just like his emotions when he is in the lake where he considers taking his own life. The only thing that held him from doing that is his father and his wife. Letting all his emotions wash him down and bring him down just like rain demonstrates how is depressed and morning not only the loss of his brother but also guilty about his murder and his creation. These emotions are later changed in the chapter as the monster convinces victor to go into the cave with him. That is where the monster talks with Victor and shares his point of view about his experiences. This kind of reminds me of a baby how they are so curious about things and they want to touch and say things they are not supposed to. They want to touch the fire and hot or cold items and they only learn not to touch it after doing it and remembering the pain or sensation they felt. This is one of the things that the monster talks about along with his experiences with humans. Whom are afraid of anyone that does not look like them making them self continuous and self-aware that the way they look is not acceptable in society and that they are not welcomed.
Leilani Colin - In my opinion the most significant event in these chapters is Victor's re-encounter with the Monster. During Justine's execution, Victor was suffering internally because of the guilt he is carrying. At Victor's vacation home, he wants to rest with nature, but still feels a sense of despair. In my opinion I feel like Victor should confess the truth about his creation and speak about his health. He cannot expect to be viewed differently when his purpose of creating the monster was to be praised and seen as a god by his creations. Victor has two choices he can either confesses, and warn the people, or agrees by the monster's wishes, and he won't have to worry for his family's safety, for no harm will come to them.
Hey Leilani! I agree with you! I think that Victor should confess. He is already carrying the guilt of the murder of his brother and the execution of Justine. His mental health is also at stake here. If he keeps this all in, he will probably go mad. On another note, what do you mean that he "cannot expect to be viewed differently" if he confesses? I think that he should expect to be viewed differently. He is at fault for the events that occurred, and he even did this creation out of ambition. I wouldn't blame them if they labeled him as crazy.
I agree. The truth can warn people about the capabilities of the monster. Being deemed mentally ill should be the last thing that Victor worries about and instead the safety of others so that what happened to William will not be repeated. -Drexler
The most significant event in these chapters is Justine's execution. Justine is executed because everyone in the town believes she murdered William, Victor's brother, and the evidence is stacked against her. Although in his heart, Victor knows the monster murdered his brother, he is unable to tell everyone the truth out of fear that he will look insane. Victor's way of handling misfortunes is to simply get away from them. In these chapters Victor starts falling into a state of depression and guilt since his creation has lead to the deaths of two of his family member. To clear his mind, Victor escapes to his family home in Belrive. While there Victor has yet again another encounter with the monster. This next encounter is much different then the last and in my opinion I feel it is used to show that you cannot escape your problems. Victor is so caught up in keeping the monster a secret out and two members of his family have now died due to his selfishness. If Victor had confessed he could have saved a life, but since he prefers to keep it all a secret he now has to live with the guilt and responsibility of Justine's death. I also believe it would not be so bad for him to be considered mentally ill because clearly, he is. Anyone who is willing to go so far as to try and create life from the body parts of other dead people is not okay and should be looked at by a doctor.
The most significant thing in these chapters is the Frankenstein family is dealing with another loss. The death of William the youngest of the boys and the most cheerful and full of life. The death of William was so sudden and so tragic because he did not just die of an illness but he was murdered by someone but the family does not know who. They accuse Justine because she was out at the time that William was killed. Victor believes he knows who did it; the monster that he created. Victor does not deal with his emotions very well. After all, he had a panic attack that left him in bed ill because he saw the horrible monster that he created come to life. So another great shock he was not ready for especially hearing this horrible event over a letter and not in person. Victor has such a hard time dealing with this feeling, but what makes it worse is having to see his family also full of pain and sorrow. Also, Justine admits to killing William, and she is sentenced to death. Victor feels more guilt and despair because he has caused two people’s death due to the abominable creature he created. All these emotions boiled and victor is so close to taking his life to end all his pain. However, he does not because he can not leave his family to deal with another death and the monster that is wandering around. He must protect his family. Victor should find help because he needs to learn how to deal with all the misfortune of his life. He must accept that he has a mental illness. Any person that has experienced death of people close to him so close together would need to have some people to talk to so that emotion does not take control and he might do something that he will regret later.
Victor despises what he has created. Even more so now because Victor knows the "monster" murders his brother. He chooses to stay quiet in order to remain "stable" amongst everybody but on the inside, his guilt consumes him to the point where he becomes sick. We can see later how much this situation has taken a toll on him mentally and emotionally. He has no one to turn to due to the fact of how he cut off any social interaction with those that he loved and everybody he knew. When you deprive yourself of that social interaction, you become lost. Although intelligent, he looses all sight of reality. Confused of his emotions, he doesn't know what to expect or what the outcome will be. His creation has a mind of his own that even Victor can't comprehend. Not knowing the troubles he will soon be in, he struggles to face the obstacles that meet him eye to eye.
The most significant events that happen in these chapters are the death of William Frankenstein (Victor’s brother), the execution of Justine, Victor meets the monster yet again, and his guilting slowly manifesting his soul. Throughout the novel, Mary Shelly evidently shows that when misfortunes happen to Victor, he simply chooses to run away from the problem. For example, when Victor created the monster, he chooses to leave his house and go out with Clerval hoping that the monster will be gone when he gets home (chapter 5). Another moment when this occurrence happens is when Victor suspects that the monster had killed William and instead of owning up to the truth, he chose to run to their family home in the mountains because of his incapability to accept the truth and the repercussions that follow his actions.
Victor should own up to the consequences of his actions even if people will deem him mentally ill. Releasing the pressure that has been building up in his mind will ease the process of accepting the truth. Often, people are embarrassed by what they have done and refuse to accept it; however, that is one of the consequences of experimentation and going against the norm. Victor should have known the effects of his actions, but his ego has taken over his logical thinking and drove him mad. At the end of the day, it is only the truth that can set someone free.
The most significant event that is happening in these chapters is that Frankenstein’s brother William has been murdered, and Justine takes the fall for his death, despite her innocence. What we learn about Victor and how he deals with misfortunes is that he is more focused on how he looks and how is perceived, rather than telling the truth. I think Victor should have said the truth about the monster because not only did he kill his brother, but he killed Justine. Although Victor thought that people seeing him as crazy would have been more horrible than what had happened, I think there would have been a sense of relief from not only telling the truth, but maybe even preventing any future deaths he could have caused with his creation. Along with that, this could have helped Victor in a way so he would not be feeling so alone during these tough times filled with guilt. The guilt he kept in only made him and his mental health worse by bringing upon him suicidal thoughts and depression.
Perhaps the main points of these chapter is victors sibling being killed, causing him to feel considerably more remorseful about the production of the beast. Likewise Victor's re-experience with the Monster. For instance, when Victor made the beast, he decides to take off from his home and go out with Clerval trusting that the beast will be gone when he returns home (chapter 5). During Justine's execution, Victor was enduring inside due to the blame he is conveying. While there Victor has once more another experience with the beast. This next experience is very different then the last and as I would like to think I feel it is utilized to show that you can't get away from your issues. Victor is so up to speed in staying quiet about the beast out and two individuals from his family have now passed on because of his narrow-mindedness.
ReplyDeleteThe most significant event in these chapters is Victor's reencounter with the Monster. The time after Justine's execution, Victor was slowly dying because of his guilt. He had an urge to confess but did not because he feared the outcome, and he even felt hopeless to the point he wanted to end his life. Thus, Victor's encounter with the monster is the most important event in these chapters because it is a pivotal moment in Victor's life. It is what will determine whether or not he lives a happy life or a fearful life. This can be assumed since the monster says, "make me happy, and I shall be virtuous," (Shelley 114). The monster's words are a threat to Victor. He will only be good if Victor complies with his demands.
Aside from that, Shelley also manages to include nature in the way Victor handles his misfortunes. From the beginning of the story until now, it is quite clear that whenever Victor finds himself not knowing what to do he runs away to find himself with nature. At Victor's vacation home, he wants to rest with nature, yet still feels despair. On their trip to Chamonix, Victor feels hopeless, so he tries to escape through nature but finds himself aggravated once he sees the monster.
I feel like Victor should confess what he has done and own up to be called mentally ill. He cannot expect to be viewed differently when his sole purpose of creating the monster was to be seen as a god by his creations. Aside from that he must confess or at least abide by the rules of the monster to protect his family. If he confesses, the people could be prepared to destroy him, and if he abides by the monster's wishes, he won't have to worry for his family's safety.
I agree with the fact that he should confess about the monster. As the monster has leverage over him making him vulnerable and paranoid which is not healthy. He should confess in order to receive the proper care for his mental health and for the monster as well. Victor is going through serious mental illness wether he wants to admit it or not which could include paranoia, depression, and anxiety which are serious illnesses that should be treated. He should also confess for the safety of his family for them to be prepared and to have course of action in case that the monster arrives and tries to harm them.
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DeleteI don't think Victor should confess because if they do choose to send Victor to a rehabilitation center and go look for his creation, they will not know what to expect and many others could end up just like William. Of course, the "monster" would only do that because he's afraid but without Victor, those people, including his love ones, will sign their fate.
One of the most significant moments in these chapters is victors brother being murdered, making him feel even more guilty about the creation of the monster. The murder of his brother makes him feel guilty and remorseful about his creation since his secret is creating a gap between the people around him. His paranoia made him think that the monster killed his brother and not Justine. All of his emotions could be seen through the reflection of nature around him. It all depends on how the environment around him is as it is gloomy and dark just like his emotions when he is in the lake where he considers taking his own life. The only thing that held him from doing that is his father and his wife. Letting all his emotions wash him down and bring him down just like rain demonstrates how is depressed and morning not only the loss of his brother but also guilty about his murder and his creation. These emotions are later changed in the chapter as the monster convinces victor to go into the cave with him. That is where the monster talks with Victor and shares his point of view about his experiences. This kind of reminds me of a baby how they are so curious about things and they want to touch and say things they are not supposed to. They want to touch the fire and hot or cold items and they only learn not to touch it after doing it and remembering the pain or sensation they felt. This is one of the things that the monster talks about along with his experiences with humans. Whom are afraid of anyone that does not look like them making them self continuous and self-aware that the way they look is not acceptable in society and that they are not welcomed.
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Leilani Colin
ReplyDelete- In my opinion the most significant event in these chapters is Victor's re-encounter with the Monster. During Justine's execution, Victor was suffering internally because of the guilt he is carrying.
At Victor's vacation home, he wants to rest with nature, but still feels a sense of despair. In my opinion I feel like Victor should confess the truth about his creation and speak about his health. He cannot expect to be viewed differently when his purpose of creating the monster was to be praised and seen as a god by his creations. Victor has two choices he can either confesses, and warn the people, or agrees by the monster's wishes, and he won't have to worry for his family's safety, for no harm will come to them.
Hey Leilani!
DeleteI agree with you! I think that Victor should confess. He is already carrying the guilt of the murder of his brother and the execution of Justine. His mental health is also at stake here. If he keeps this all in, he will probably go mad. On another note, what do you mean that he "cannot expect to be viewed differently" if he confesses? I think that he should expect to be viewed differently. He is at fault for the events that occurred, and he even did this creation out of ambition. I wouldn't blame them if they labeled him as crazy.
I agree. The truth can warn people about the capabilities of the monster. Being deemed mentally ill should be the last thing that Victor worries about and instead the safety of others so that what happened to William will not be repeated. -Drexler
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ReplyDeleteThe most significant event in these chapters is Justine's execution. Justine is executed because everyone in the town believes she murdered William, Victor's brother, and the evidence is stacked against her. Although in his heart, Victor knows the monster murdered his brother, he is unable to tell everyone the truth out of fear that he will look insane.
Victor's way of handling misfortunes is to simply get away from them. In these chapters Victor starts falling into a state of depression and guilt since his creation has lead to the deaths of two of his family member. To clear his mind, Victor escapes to his family home in Belrive. While there Victor has yet again another encounter with the monster. This next encounter is much different then the last and in my opinion I feel it is used to show that you cannot escape your problems. Victor is so caught up in keeping the monster a secret out and two members of his family have now died due to his selfishness. If Victor had confessed he could have saved a life, but since he prefers to keep it all a secret he now has to live with the guilt and responsibility of Justine's death. I also believe it would not be so bad for him to be considered mentally ill because clearly, he is. Anyone who is willing to go so far as to try and create life from the body parts of other dead people is not okay and should be looked at by a doctor.
The most significant thing in these chapters is the Frankenstein family is dealing with another loss. The death of William the youngest of the boys and the most cheerful and full of life. The death of William was so sudden and so tragic because he did not just die of an illness but he was murdered by someone but the family does not know who. They accuse Justine because she was out at the time that William was killed. Victor believes he knows who did it; the monster that he created. Victor does not deal with his emotions very well. After all, he had a panic attack that left him in bed ill because he saw the horrible monster that he created come to life. So another great shock he was not ready for especially hearing this horrible event over a letter and not in person. Victor has such a hard time dealing with this feeling, but what makes it worse is having to see his family also full of pain and sorrow. Also, Justine admits to killing William, and she is sentenced to death. Victor feels more guilt and despair because he has caused two people’s death due to the abominable creature he created. All these emotions boiled and victor is so close to taking his life to end all his pain. However, he does not because he can not leave his family to deal with another death and the monster that is wandering around. He must protect his family.
ReplyDeleteVictor should find help because he needs to learn how to deal with all the misfortune of his life. He must accept that he has a mental illness. Any person that has experienced death of people close to him so close together would need to have some people to talk to so that emotion does not take control and he might do something that he will regret later.
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ReplyDeleteVictor despises what he has created. Even more so now because Victor knows the "monster" murders his brother. He chooses to stay quiet in order to remain "stable" amongst everybody but on the inside, his guilt consumes him to the point where he becomes sick. We can see later how much this situation has taken a toll on him mentally and emotionally. He has no one to turn to due to the fact of how he cut off any social interaction with those that he loved and everybody he knew. When you deprive yourself of that social interaction, you become lost. Although intelligent, he looses all sight of reality. Confused of his emotions, he doesn't know what to expect or what the outcome will be. His creation has a mind of his own that even Victor can't comprehend. Not knowing the troubles he will soon be in, he struggles to face the obstacles that meet him eye to eye.
I completely agree that being isolated caused Victor to become worse and I also believe that telling the truth would have set him free.
DeleteThe most significant events that happen in these chapters are the death of William Frankenstein (Victor’s brother), the execution of Justine, Victor meets the monster yet again, and his guilting slowly manifesting his soul. Throughout the novel, Mary Shelly evidently shows that when misfortunes happen to Victor, he simply chooses to run away from the problem. For example, when Victor created the monster, he chooses to leave his house and go out with Clerval hoping that the monster will be gone when he gets home (chapter 5). Another moment when this occurrence happens is when Victor suspects that the monster had killed William and instead of owning up to the truth, he chose to run to their family home in the mountains because of his incapability to accept the truth and the repercussions that follow his actions.
ReplyDeleteVictor should own up to the consequences of his actions even if people will deem him mentally ill. Releasing the pressure that has been building up in his mind will ease the process of accepting the truth. Often, people are embarrassed by what they have done and refuse to accept it; however, that is one of the consequences of experimentation and going against the norm. Victor should have known the effects of his actions, but his ego has taken over his logical thinking and drove him mad. At the end of the day, it is only the truth that can set someone free.
The most significant event that is happening in these chapters is that Frankenstein’s brother William has been murdered, and Justine takes the fall for his death, despite her innocence. What we learn about Victor and how he deals with misfortunes is that he is more focused on how he looks and how is perceived, rather than telling the truth. I think Victor should have said the truth about the monster because not only did he kill his brother, but he killed Justine. Although Victor thought that people seeing him as crazy would have been more horrible than what had happened, I think there would have been a sense of relief from not only telling the truth, but maybe even preventing any future deaths he could have caused with his creation. Along with that, this could have helped Victor in a way so he would not be feeling so alone during these tough times filled with guilt. The guilt he kept in only made him and his mental health worse by bringing upon him suicidal thoughts and depression.
ReplyDeletePerhaps the main points of these chapter is victors sibling being killed, causing him to feel considerably more remorseful about the production of the beast. Likewise Victor's re-experience with the Monster. For instance, when Victor made the beast, he decides to take off from his home and go out with Clerval trusting that the beast will be gone when he returns home (chapter 5). During Justine's execution, Victor was enduring inside due to the blame he is conveying. While there Victor has once more another experience with the beast. This next experience is very different then the last and as I would like to think I feel it is utilized to show that you can't get away from your issues. Victor is so up to speed in staying quiet about the beast out and two individuals from his family have now passed on because of his narrow-mindedness.
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