Find a significant quote or scene and explain why it is important. You can look at the encounter between Victor and the creature, or analyze the way Mary Shelley uses nature as a literary element.
Throughout chapters 11-15, the encounter between Victor and the monster was significant as it gave insight into the life the monster led when he ran away from Victor's apartment. Through it all, I believe that the most important scene amongst all this was the monster's reflection of the three books he found in the woods, Sorrows of Werter, Plutarch’s Lives, and Paradise Lost. Each book gave him a sense of "delight" as they educated him of the world around him. He learned about "speculation and astonishment" along with "the histories of the first founders of the ancient republics." Despite this knowledge, the most important thing he learned was that it was possible for an "omnipotent God warring with his creatures was capable of existing." This quote is important as it reveals the monster's emotions towards Victor, and Shelley's use of an allusion towards the Bible. In this case the monster can identify himself with Adam because he was created by a sort of god and had no "link to any other being in existence." By alluding to scenes in the Garden of Eden, Shelley is foreshadowing what will happen next, the loss of innocence for disobeying God. As shown before, the monster lost his innocence and became venegful after Victor abandoned him. Along with this foreshadowment there is a moment of comparison and contrast between God and Victor. God was good to Adam and never abandoned him, yet Adam lost his innocence by disobeying God. On the other hand, Victor was ambitious and cruel to the monster because he abandoned him and left the monster to fight for himself. These moments go to show that the idea of man creating another creature will only destroy mankind because they are no God, but rather flawed men. This idea can be supported as the monster proceeds to say, "Many times I considered Satan. " He says to imply that he is a devil because he was created by a devil.
All in all, this scene is important as it gives insight into the true intentions of the monster. The monster is evil because he was made by evil, and only the evil force can fix his mistakes.
I agree on how the encounter between Victor and his creation is significant because it opens up perspective on the "monster" and how he's not what people expected him to be. Victor only sees from a bird eye perspective when their is far more to look at in terms of the development and growth from his creation.
Throughout chapters 11-15 The monster tells Victor of all he had experienced after leaving Victor's apartment. This event is significant because it shows that the monster is not simply a monster, but a human with emotions and comprehension. A significant quote from this section would be in chapter 13 when the monster asks, “Was I then a monster, a blot upon the earth, from which all men fled?" This quote carries significance because it shows that the monster knows he is different from everyone else in society. He knows he does not belong in this world and is left on the sidelines as he is not like everyone else. Shelly uses the monster's slow gain of knowledge to reveal the softer side of the monster's feelings of isolation to parallel those of Victor. Both the monster and Victor feel they do not belong in society but for different reasons. Victor feels isolated because he created the monster and is caring the guilt of Justine and William's death; while the monster feels isolated because he is unlike the rest of society. This connection through the feeling of isolation allows for the readers to see the similarities between both Victor and the monster further revealing that they are not so different from one another after all.
I really like how you compared the monster and Victor side by side in order to show how similar they are in these chapters. I also agree that the monster is now seen as more than a monster, rather a character that is easy to understand as he talks about his feelings and hardships while navigating though life.
A scene that I found significant in chapters 11-15 was when Victor's creation was explaining the life events from Victor's departure to now. We can see the development in thoughts and emotions in the "monster" and how eloquently spoken he has become. He embodies a child who sees everything in a new light, not knowing what to expect. Although scared of his surroundings, the "monster" does not let that get in the way of learning new things. He tries to mimic every move of the couple he sees who names are Felix and Agatha. That is where he learns to speak. He also grows quite fond of them and their conversations. This is the time where he feels apart of the world and one with nature unlike Victor who seems out of place and alone. Victor and his creation learn quite a few things from each other.
Hey Karina! It is fascinating, that although a monster, he was considerate of others, including himself. Based on his time alone, and his ability to learn the English language, along with the way things work, it makes you wonder if he truly is a monster.
I agree. These pivotal moments that taught Victor how the monster was raised ultimately showed us how capable the monster is to adapt and learn the ways of humans. Victor did not create an evil monster, it was the surrounding that ultimately shaped the monster to who he is. -Drexler
I also agree , how the monster was raised eventually demonstrated the monster's ability to evolve and understand human ways. Victor did not produce an inhuman monster; rather, the monster's environment transformed him into the person who he became
The most significant scene within these chapters is the ability of the monster ot adapt and learn the behaviors of mankind. After fleeing Victor’s apartment, the monster manages to find shelter in the wood in which he carefully watched how humans interacted with each other. It was his attention to detail that contributed to his successful understanding of language, inequity, feelings, and relationships. His understanding of these thighs shows how intellectually capable he truly is and how deep he is able to understand such complex ideas that most regular individuals cannot conceptualize. This shows that Victor had the chance to teach the monster respect, attitude, and other things that makes humans good people. But, Victor let his fear overtake his ability to face the truth thus missing out on this opportunity. If he would have done so, his brother William might still be alive and he would have gotten the recognition that he dedervs for his remarkble discovery.
The significant quote I picked was “The gentle manners and beauty of the cottagers greatly endeared them to me: when they were unhappy, I felt depressed; when they rejoiced, I sympathized in their joys.” I think this was a very important quote to me because in this moment, we realize that the monster is not a monster at all. We also learn that the monster is capable of feeling things just like humans, making him a character we can sympathize with and understand as he tells his side of the story. This is also important for the relationship between the monster and Victor because we see that as the monster starts to realize many things such as happiness and sadness, he starts to wonder about his life and if he ever had a mother and a father like the De Lacey family he admires so much. Because he starts to question all of this about his life and the only person who has the answers to his questions is his creator, he wants to find Victor for these answers yet Victor despises what he created.
The meeting between Victor and the monster was noteworthy in chapters 11-15 because it provided insight into the monster's existence before he ran away from Victor's apartment. The beast has the potential to respond to human actions and learn it.He represents a child who sees life in a different light and is unsure about what to expect. Despite his fear of his surroundings, the "monster" refuses to let it stop him from discovering new knowledge. He attempts to imitate every step of Felix and Agatha, the couple he sees. That's when he learns to communicate. He grows fond of them and their interactions as well. This crucial points in Victor's life that revealed how the monster was raised eventually demonstrated the monster's ability to evolve and understand human ways. Victor did not produce an inhuman monster; rather, the monster's environment transformed him into the person he is today.
Throughout chapters 11-15, the encounter between Victor and the monster was significant as it gave insight into the life the monster led when he ran away from Victor's apartment. Through it all, I believe that the most important scene amongst all this was the monster's reflection of the three books he found in the woods, Sorrows of Werter, Plutarch’s Lives, and Paradise Lost.
ReplyDeleteEach book gave him a sense of "delight" as they educated him of the world around him. He learned about "speculation and astonishment" along with "the histories of the first founders of the ancient republics." Despite this knowledge, the most important thing he learned was that it was possible for an "omnipotent God warring with his creatures was capable of existing." This quote is important as it reveals the monster's emotions towards Victor, and Shelley's use of an allusion towards the Bible. In this case the monster can identify himself with Adam because he was created by a sort of god and had no "link to any other being in existence." By alluding to scenes in the Garden of Eden, Shelley is foreshadowing what will happen next, the loss of innocence for disobeying God. As shown before, the monster lost his innocence and became venegful after Victor abandoned him. Along with this foreshadowment there is a moment of comparison and contrast between God and Victor. God was good to Adam and never abandoned him, yet Adam lost his innocence by disobeying God. On the other hand, Victor was ambitious and cruel to the monster because he abandoned him and left the monster to fight for himself. These moments go to show that the idea of man creating another creature will only destroy mankind because they are no God, but rather flawed men. This idea can be supported as the monster proceeds to say, "Many times I considered Satan. " He says to imply that he is a devil because he was created by a devil.
All in all, this scene is important as it gives insight into the true intentions of the monster. The monster is evil because he was made by evil, and only the evil force can fix his mistakes.
Karina Perez
DeleteI agree on how the encounter between Victor and his creation is significant because it opens up perspective on the "monster" and how he's not what people expected him to be. Victor only sees from a bird eye perspective when their is far more to look at in terms of the development and growth from his creation.
Linda Brand:
ReplyDeleteThroughout chapters 11-15 The monster tells Victor of all he had experienced after leaving Victor's apartment. This event is significant because it shows that the monster is not simply a monster, but a human with emotions and comprehension. A significant quote from this section would be in chapter 13 when the monster asks, “Was I then a monster, a blot upon the earth, from which all men fled?" This quote carries significance because it shows that the monster knows he is different from everyone else in society. He knows he does not belong in this world and is left on the sidelines as he is not like everyone else. Shelly uses the monster's slow gain of knowledge to reveal the softer side of the monster's feelings of isolation to parallel those of Victor. Both the monster and Victor feel they do not belong in society but for different reasons. Victor feels isolated because he created the monster and is caring the guilt of Justine and William's death; while the monster feels isolated because he is unlike the rest of society. This connection through the feeling of isolation allows for the readers to see the similarities between both Victor and the monster further revealing that they are not so different from one another after all.
I really like how you compared the monster and Victor side by side in order to show how similar they are in these chapters. I also agree that the monster is now seen as more than a monster, rather a character that is easy to understand as he talks about his feelings and hardships while navigating though life.
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ReplyDeleteA scene that I found significant in chapters 11-15 was when Victor's creation was explaining the life events from Victor's departure to now. We can see the development in thoughts and emotions in the "monster" and how eloquently spoken he has become. He embodies a child who sees everything in a new light, not knowing what to expect. Although scared of his surroundings, the "monster" does not let that get in the way of learning new things. He tries to mimic every move of the couple he sees who names are Felix and Agatha. That is where he learns to speak. He also grows quite fond of them and their conversations. This is the time where he feels apart of the world and one with nature unlike Victor who seems out of place and alone. Victor and his creation learn quite a few things from each other.
Hey Karina!
DeleteIt is fascinating, that although a monster, he was considerate of others, including himself. Based on his time alone, and his ability to learn the English language, along with the way things work, it makes you wonder if he truly is a monster.
I agree. These pivotal moments that taught Victor how the monster was raised ultimately showed us how capable the monster is to adapt and learn the ways of humans. Victor did not create an evil monster, it was the surrounding that ultimately shaped the monster to who he is. -Drexler
DeleteI also agree , how the monster was raised eventually demonstrated the monster's ability to evolve and understand human ways. Victor did not produce an inhuman monster; rather, the monster's environment transformed him into the person who he became
DeleteThe most significant scene within these chapters is the ability of the monster ot adapt and learn the behaviors of mankind. After fleeing Victor’s apartment, the monster manages to find shelter in the wood in which he carefully watched how humans interacted with each other. It was his attention to detail that contributed to his successful understanding of language, inequity, feelings, and relationships. His understanding of these thighs shows how intellectually capable he truly is and how deep he is able to understand such complex ideas that most regular individuals cannot conceptualize. This shows that Victor had the chance to teach the monster respect, attitude, and other things that makes humans good people. But, Victor let his fear overtake his ability to face the truth thus missing out on this opportunity. If he would have done so, his brother William might still be alive and he would have gotten the recognition that he dedervs for his remarkble discovery.
ReplyDeleteThe significant quote I picked was “The gentle manners and beauty of the cottagers greatly endeared them to me: when they were unhappy, I felt depressed; when they rejoiced, I sympathized in their joys.” I think this was a very important quote to me because in this moment, we realize that the monster is not a monster at all. We also learn that the monster is capable of feeling things just like humans, making him a character we can sympathize with and understand as he tells his side of the story. This is also important for the relationship between the monster and Victor because we see that as the monster starts to realize many things such as happiness and sadness, he starts to wonder about his life and if he ever had a mother and a father like the De Lacey family he admires so much. Because he starts to question all of this about his life and the only person who has the answers to his questions is his creator, he wants to find Victor for these answers yet Victor despises what he created.
ReplyDeleteThe meeting between Victor and the monster was noteworthy in chapters 11-15 because it provided insight into the monster's existence before he ran away from Victor's apartment. The beast has the potential to respond to human actions and learn it.He represents a child who sees life in a different light and is unsure about what to expect. Despite his fear of his surroundings, the "monster" refuses to let it stop him from discovering new knowledge. He attempts to imitate every step of Felix and Agatha, the couple he sees. That's when he learns to communicate. He grows fond of them and their interactions as well. This crucial points in Victor's life that revealed how the monster was raised eventually demonstrated the monster's ability to evolve and understand human ways. Victor did not produce an inhuman monster; rather, the monster's environment transformed him into the person he is today.
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